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Edgar WHITE (1879-1972)

1. Edgar William Hurlock WHITE, son of Thomas Henry Philpot WHITE (1850-1937) and Charlotte Catherine HURLOCK (1845-1936), was born in 1879. He died in 1972. He married Hilda Blanche FURLEY.


Typed pages by Edgar White about the family and circulated amongst some relatives:

"My mother's parents by Edgar White [and, handwritten by Iris Wilson: "Grandson of Charlotte, Onez' sister"]

"Grandpa William Hurlock, I remember well as a tall very handsome man with a white flowing beard who lived at St. Albans and was the founder of the thriving business at Walworth Road, Elephant and Castle, comprising many shops on both sides of the road being drapers, gents' outfitters, furniture, boots and shoes, etc. and well known as Hurlocks, Elephant and Castle [Was Edgar mistaken in confusing Grandpa William (= George William who married Charlotte Hodsell) with William, the son who, according to most accounts, was the founder of Hurlocks and went to live in St. Albans?? PW]

"Grandma William Hurlock (nee Hodsell), I can remember seeing only once when I was very young, she was connected with the Banking House of Hodsell's, Lombard Street, City, which bank was merged with one of the 5 big group, and I think was the Westminster Bank. The Hodsell family home was known as the Rookery, St. Mary Cray, Kent. It had been a stately pile and the last occupier was Matilda Hodsell. I remember driving my sister Kate and her 2 children down to see the place over 30 years ago as it was being dismantled and we walked about the drawing room which had been very ornate and of immense size: the grounds covering many acres were already marked out with roads and a large building estate commenced.

"My maternal grandparents had 4 children: William, George, Emily and Charlotte, the latter being my own mother. Aunt Emily my mother's sister married Chas. Williams and had two children, one being a daughter Emily who married George Waller and had a numerous family. Emily was very beautiful and known as the Belle of Camberwell and her eldest son, Albert Waller, is the only one I now keep in touch with in Worthing. William carried on the family business and lived at Ver House, Holywell Hill, St. Albans (now a guest house) the river Ver passed through the centre of his beautiful gounds where I have seen him catch some fine trout of an evening. The grounds also contained a fine covered swimming bath with palms and marble statuary and a belfry with a fine peal of bells. Uncle William married Aunt Susan and had five children, William, Walter, George, Fred and Tottie. Walter married and lived at Little Missenden, Fred married and lived at Clock House, Horley. William had a family, one of whom was very successful in business, maker of the A.C. cars and the famous Cobra cars and died this year at his fine home, the Manor House, Thames Ditton. On the wall of the Manor House hangs a life size painting of Uncle William in the robes as Mayor and life Alderman of St. Albans. I remember that during the Boer War, my Uncle being a staunch liberal, spoke against the War and the local mobs broke all the windows in Ver House. I also remember that in the drawing room there stood an easel on which was set out the family tree, showing that the Hurlocks through the Hodsells claimed descent from John Hampden who resisted Charles I over Ship Money. His monument stands in Aylesbury Square and his motto was "Nulla Vestigia Retrosum" (no turning back). I am not aware John Hampden married one of the King's sisters, but I must look in the library at Oxted and see if this was so. I omitted to mention during our visit to the Rookery, St. Mary Cray, we went into the church opposite to view the large Hodsell family pew and the memorial tablets on the wall.

"My Father's Parents

"Grandma White (nee Bloomfield). School Mistress, very strict. Grandpa White died when my Father was 14; they had 4 children, Uncle Jack in Australia, Aunts Mary and Sophie Bloomfield spinsters, whom I sometimes saw as a child in their home at Kennington Park. I understand the Bloomfield family originated from Ireland and were connected by marriage with Ralph de Pomeroy of Pomeroy Abbey in Devon which property the Duke of Somerset seized. A picture of Pomeroy Abbey, until recently, hung on the wall of my eldest brother, Ernest's home, and my Father's homes were always called Pomeroy. Several of our family, including my parents, have visited Pomeroy which is a very attractive ruin and the Duke of Somerset's crest is to be seen carved in stone over the main entrance. All I know about my Grandfather is the following:

"He went to school with Sir Henry Doulton and was a partner in the well know firm of Doulton's Potteries, still on the Thames Embankment close to Lambeth Palace. He later separated from Doultons and started a pottery at Burslem Staffs. and through overwork dies when my Father was only 14 years of age adn my Father worked to help support the family. My father's sisters (2) were my Aunt Annie who married Uncle Jack Spratt, had one son Charlie, lived at Loughborough Park, Brixton. Jack Spratt was one of the managers of Cubitts the builders in Grays Inn Road, now Cubitts Holland & Hannen; he was there for 60 years and Charlie, his son, eventually had his Father's position in the same firm until he died. Charlie was married, had one son, Reggie, and lived at Stevenage, Herts. My Father's younger sister married Uncle Willie Oxenford, lived at Forest Hill and were childless. He was Chief Examiner of Wills and Probate at Somerset House, Strand, London. As a child I often enjoyed the pleasure of staying with them.

"My father, with his Mother and two sisters, moved to London and settled in S.E. district.

"Chas. Haddon Spurgeon, the well known Baptist Minister, was attracting huge congregations at what is now know as Spurgeons Tabernacle and my Father and Mother, as well as my Oxenford relations, regularly met there.

"My Father married Charlotte Catherine Hurlock, after marriage started their home in St. Albans where my eldest sister, Kate, was born, and where my Mother's Parents lived next door. The Hurlock family lived at Ver House, St. Albans. My father, not liking the daily journey moved to London, and bought a house in Cuthill Road, Love Lane, Denmark Hill, where I was born in 1879 and, curiously enough, I was asked to investigate the bomb damage there after the last War and standing in the breakfast room mentioned to the present tenant that I was born in the room above, to which the lady replied she was born there also. My father now became manager of F. and C. Braby and Co., Belvedere Road, Lambeth, Builders Merchants, prior to starting on his own account as T.H. White & Co. He bought a house in Brixton, which was called St. Albans.

"My Parents later on moved to Pomeroy, Clapham Park, eventually moving from Streatham to a house he bought and named Pomeroy in Worthing, where they eventually died. My father born September 24th 1850 died January 29th 1937, My mother born January 23rd 1845 and died December 4th 1936.".


Hilda Blanche FURLEY and Edgar William Hurlock WHITE had the following children:


Lilian WHITE ( -c. 1996). Lilian died circa 1996.

Horace WHITE (c. 1914-1994). Horace was born circa 1914. She died in 1994.

Harold WHITE (c. 1916- ). Harold was born circa 1916.

Cyril WHITE (c. 1920- ). Cyril was born circa 1920.

Frank WHITE ( - )

Second Generation

2. Thomas Henry Philpot WHITE was born on 3 September 1850. He married Charlotte Catherine HURLOCK between 1871 and 1877. He died on 29 January 1937.


3. Charlotte Catherine HURLOCK, daughter of George William HURLOCK and Charlotte HODSELL, was born on 23 January 1845 in Greater London, Kent. She died on 4 December 1936 in Worthing, Sussex.


Charlotte was allegedly scrupulously observant of the Sabbath - to the extent of refusing to read newpapers on a Monday because they had been printed on a Sunday. Her widowed father George was living with Charlotte and her husband just before the former's death in 1886.


Thomas Henry Philpot WHITE and Charlotte Catherine HURLOCK had the following children:


Ernest WHITE ( - )

Katherine Charlotte WHITE (1874- ). Katherine was born in 1874. She married Charles Edgar PARNELL on 19 June 1901 in New Park Road Baptist Church, Brixton Hill.


Edgar William Hurlock WHITE (1879-1972)

Third Generation

4. George William HURLOCK, son of Cutaway Mike, Michael HURLOCK and Sarah SCOTT, was born on 27 November 1802 in Christ Ch.Spitalfields (Shoreditch). He was baptised on 26 December 1802 in Christ Ch.Spitalfields. He appeared in the census. He was a Railway Policeman. He married Charlotte HODSELL on 16 August 1825 in St. Pancras, Middlesex. He died on 21 October 1886 in Hertford, Herts..


Notes by Sandra Hurlock:

"The fourth surviving son of "Cutaway Mike" and Sarah was born in 1802. Having a well-known father and son (William) has made it difficult to get information on George's life.

"According to family information, at the age of 23 he made a runaway marriage with Charlotte, the daughter of a wealthy city man. Charlotte Hodsell was the duaghter of Thomas Hodsell (Hodsoll?) whose family seems to have been connected with one of the old City banks. She had been baptised at St. Botolph Bishopsgate in 1802 and although she was therefore "of full age" when she married in 1825, it was said that she defied her parents in so doing. Nonetheless, two of her relatives attended the marriage at St. Pancras Church as witnesses - William, probably a younger brother, and Isabella Hodsoll.

"It is not known where George and Charlotte began married life. In 1828 two daughters were christened Charlotte and Sophia at St. Leonard's, and on this occasion George gave his occupation as "Shoemaker" (it seems probable that both girls died before 1841 since they do not appear on that census and on-one in the later family seemed to have heard of them). George Edmund was born in April 1830 and was also christened at St. Leonard's, when George Senior declared himself "Fishmonger", maybe working with one of his brothers. George Edmund usually gave his place of birth as Hackney, although he once gave it as Hoxton.

"Sometime during the next four years the family crossed the Thames and went to live in Deptford, then still virtually a riverside township, separated from London by marshes. This was very puzzling to the author for a long time. The first civil document she found connected with George - the marriage certificate of George Edmund (1856) showed George Senior as "Police Constable". This prompted a series of enquiries to the River, City and Metropolitan Police forces, but despite their thorough investigations George's assertion remained unsupported by other evidence until the family was discovered on the 1851 census at 7 Nelson Street, Deptford. It was a very dark copy and after the word "Policeman" in George's occupation slot could just be discovered, in brackets "Rail". He wasn't listed with the family on the 1841 census, perhaps because he was working nights?? This return showed George Junior aged 11, three of the children born in Deptford - Thomas, Emily and William, plus a child of three years named Maria, with n.k. where her surname should have been. She may have been a "Nurse Child" but both film and copy are too faint to be deciphered with any confidence. She was no longer with them by 1851.

"The authorities seem to agree that it is extremely difficult to find reconds of early railway staff of any kind and that to do so it is essential to know the name of the Railway Company that employed them. Since no-one this century even seemed to have heard about this police occupation of George's it seemed that an educated guess would have to be the only starting point. There must have been a very good reason for George to remove himself and young family from the Hurlock network in the Shoreditch area and cross the River to live in a dockyard township: finding a better kind of employment seemed the most likely one.

"Bibliographies of railway history and a study of maps of South London helped to reduce the possibilities somewhat. It was found that in 1833 permission had been given for a railway to be built between Greenwich and London to carry both freight and passengers. The work of actually building it began in 1834 and the first section to be laid ran about two miles, from Bermondsey to Deptford. When it was officially opened in December 1836, the London and Greenwich was the first passenger railway to run into London, eventually terminating at London Bridge. At the start the Company employed thirty policemen (whose duties included the rudimentary signalling used in the very early days) but over the years this number reduced to a very few. Unfortunately, although not unexpectedly, only two or three names of policemen appear in the Minutes of the Company during a period of thirty years and none of these was George. Therefore the author has sadly to declare total ignorance of George's police work with the railway.

"George and some of the family were still at 7 Nelson Street in 1852 but had gone from there by 1861. In March 1864, on the marriage of the youngest son William, George have his occupation as "Clothier", which must have meant that by then he was working with William at the Walworth Road shops. In 1871, he and Charlotte were certainly living in Walworth Road in a household which included on census night at least, William, the then unmarried daughter Charlotte, Emily's daughter Emily C. Williams and Emily's future husband, James Carpenter."

If Charlotte's background was as superior as legend has it, she must have had to suffer materially in the cause of romance and no doubt at times felt that she had sacrificed too much. She died in 1882 at St. Albans, aged 73. It seems as though George then moved to live with his youngest daughter, Charlotte Catherine, and her husband Henry White, in Stockwell, since although George also died at St. Albans, upon probate of his will being granted in 1886, he was said to be "formerly of St. Albans... but late of... Stockwell".


Some census details:

the 1851 census shows that the family is still living at 165 Nelson Street, St. Paul, Deptford. George is a "Policeman (Rail)". He and Charlotte are with their children Emily (aged 14 and a dressmaker's assistant/apprentice?), William (aged 11) and Charlotte (aged 6).

The 1861 census gives George still as Railway Constable. In the house at the time of the census were his wife and two daughters Emily (aged 23) and Charlotte (aged 16).


5. Charlotte HODSELL, daughter of Thomas HODSELL, was born in 1802 in St. Botolph, Bishopsgate, London. She died on 19 October 1882 in St. Albans.


Family Home: the Rookery, St. Mary Cray, Kent (but see notes by Edgar White). The church opposite contains the large Hodsell family pew and the memorial tablets on the wall.


The Hodsells were connected with the Banking House of Hodsell's, Lombard Street, City, which bank merged with one of the 5 big group, possibly the Westminster Bank.


George William HURLOCK and Charlotte HODSELL had the following children:


Sophia HURLOCK (c. 1828- ). Sophia was born circa 1828. She was baptised in July 1828 in Shoreditch, St. Leonard.

Charlotte HURLOCK (c. 1829-c. 1830). Charlotte was born circa 1829. She died circa 1830.

George Edmund HURLOCK (1830-1894). George was baptised on 10 April 1830 in Shoreditch. He was born on 19 April 1830 in Shoreditch. He was a Sanitary Inspector. He married Ann CLAPSON on 1 October 1856 in Shoreditch St.Leonard. He died in 1894. He was buried on 20 July 1894 in Bow Cemetery.

Thomas William HURLOCK (1834-1852). Thomas was born in 1834. He died in 1852.

Emily HURLOCK (c. 1836-bef1929). Emily was born circa 1836. She was baptised in 1836 in Deptford, St. Paul. She appeared in the census. She celebrated her Bar Mitzvah. She married Chas WILLIAMS. She died between 1920 and 1929.

William HURLOCK (c. 1840-1925). William was born circa 1840. He was baptised on 11 January 1840 in Deptford. He married Susan MAPLES on 25 March 1864 in St. Alphege, Greenwich. He died in 1925.


Charlotte Catherine HURLOCK (1845-1936)